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Lionel T.'s avatar

Thanks soooo much for this. Beautiful Gem!!!

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BE's avatar

My pleasure! 😊

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26+6=One Ireland's avatar

I will put my trust in the 2000-year-old Catholic Church's theology. https://dmsbcatholic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/The-Rapture.pdf- Compiled by Fr. Martin Pitstick. Updated 11/11/20o and https://www.catholiccompany.com/content/what-the-catholic-church-teaches-about-the-rapture.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Thanks so much for this link. I really appreciate, love the article

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Paul Brett's avatar

You mention the “Church” So tell me Who and What are/is “The Church” of God?

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it. 1 Corinthians 12:27

I believe that we are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

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Paul Brett's avatar

Not every one that says unto me Lord Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom. But They who Do the Will of My Father.

I and The Father are One, because I keep the Father’s Commandments. Christ came to Fulfil The Law, not do away with it. Most “traditional Christians” all agree on 9 of the 10, bar One, the 4th which is to be a perpetual “Sign” which Christ kept!

He overturned the tables and drove out those who were trading in the temple, because they were breaking The Sabbath. Christ is the same Yesterday, Today & Forever, he kept All 10 of the Commandments, & the Jewish Holy Days. The Passover, (which He became), the 7 day Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Day of Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles & The Last Great Day. These 7 Holy Days are High Sabbaths. Christ himself said “I will build My Church” singular, not many “churches” with contradicting doctrines, beliefs, ideas & methods of worship. Howbeit they do worship Me In Vain! After the commandments & doctrines of Men…..The “Church” of God was established on that 1st Day of Pentecost June 17, 31 AD when They 120 were all gathered together in One place of One Accord, to Keep That Very Day to receive the Holy Spirit. There is only One “Church of God”, that is ever mentioned in the Bible, and so it is Named, in 7 various locations, at that time, And They All Kept the Sabbath, as the Body of Christ who Is The Head of The Church He Founded on The Day of Pentecost.

No man can come to me except the Father who sent Me, Calls them.

Christ does Not even select them, only The Father Does.

The whole world is Deceived by The God of This World…. except for the “Elect” They Know their Shepherds Voice, and Follow Him. Not everyone that says unto Me Lord Lord shall enter into the Kingdom,(this side of Christ’s Return but theirs & everyone’s time will come) , but They that DO the Will of My Father. Are 1st Called, Set apart, Chosen & Sanctified. All who are “called”, are to Repent of Sin= (breaking of all of the 10 commandments, including the Sabbath(s) Be Baptised (not at birth but as a repentant adults ) and Then have hands laid upon them (by a true Minister of God) to receive The Gift of The Holy Spirit. Without which, are not in the body of Christ, or of THE Church of God. As It Is Written. So it Is.

Selah.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

amen and amen!!!!!

Woooow .... thank you sooooooo much for this awesome exposition and comment. This is really awesome.

Praise God in Jesus name ... wooow amen and amennnnn!!!

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Paul Brett's avatar

Hi mate👋 I know what I’ve said is Not normally “accepted” out there…. My reply comments were more directed to Edwin as the principal author of the article. But I really do appreciate your positive feedback, all the same. 👍A lot of what I put “out there” is meant to simply do that, knowing hoping that the fruits are remembered, when they come to pass. In no way shape or form am I trying to “convert” anyone or criticise them. Just saying it as I understand it. And anyone on the other end has there rightful choice to consider it accordingly.

Cheers

Paul

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Anna Garcia de la Cadena's avatar

The Church is the “out-called ones

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Anna Garcia de la Cadena's avatar

The Church (Ekklesia) Greek: the out-called ones. Called out by God, having faith in his Son Jesus Christ. It’s not a building, a religion, but a chosen people, chosen by God. Jesus told Peter “Upon this Rock (Petra: large Stone) I will build my Church. Matt 16:16-18.

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Anna Garcia de la Cadena's avatar

The Rock is Jesus Christ (Petra) upon this Rock I will build My Church.

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Commissioner777's avatar

Do you really think Jesus Christ only had 3 1/2 years but Satan gets 7? Come on Man.

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Anna Garcia de la Cadena's avatar

You missed it! The Great Tribulation Period is for God dealing with Israel, not the Church. Remember, Israel is still waiting for the Messiah since they don’t believe Jesus was the Christ they were waiting for. They will go through this period, God is trying to get them to look up and realize Jesus is the Christ, Messiah. However, they must go through and endure this terrible time. They are the ones that are referred to as Tribulation Saints. Remember God had a purpose for ever

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Amen and amen!!!!! God has a purpose forever indeed. Please do you have a verse to support this please? I will really like that so I can study it further.

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Commissioner777's avatar

I didn’t miss a thing. 😊. There is no pre tribulation rapture. It’s a construct of the 1800’s by a con artist by the name of John Darby who was friends with the Rothschilds who put the Scofield Bible with the help of a convicted felon. If you want to follow their teachings, feel free. Read John 6:40. He comes for us on the Last Day. If I believed in the pre trib I would have to remove a ton of the New Testament as it clearly states that there is no such thing. The Dead in Christ will arise first. I would have to remove that from my Bible if I believed in the pre trib. There are 4 or 5 verses I would have to remove from Matthew 24 alone if I were to deceive myself into believing there’s a pre tribulation rapture. The tribulation is here. 1000’s of Christians being killed a day and the entire human genome was just altered and plagues and earthquakes happening every where. The Lord promised to destroy the earth by fire the 2nd time and here we are on the verge of nuclear conflict that would quite literally potentially split the entire planet into and their nuclear weapons are on a 30 second launch codes. We can see the End from here.

The Tribulation is here, but I can see how a person that thinks we are leaving before it starts being in denial about that. The circular logic used to believe in the pre tribulation requires a load of gymnastics maneuvers that I will not perform. I will leave that up to you. You and I are about to meet Jesus gave to face. The AC is already here and will likely take his place before 2025 is over.

The pre tribulation rapture wasn’t a thing until the mid 1800’s or so. Do you really believe Jesus allowed all of us to be led astray those first 1850 years or so before John Darby who was friends with the Rothchilds hired a convicted felon to help put together the Scofield Bible which is responsible for this nonsense.

Satan doesn’t rule for 7 years. He gets 3 1/2 years just like Jesus. You can’t show me where it says Satan rules for 7 years because it’s not in the bible. It says he breaks the covenant half way through. 3 1/2 years…..hello Armageddon.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

I did hear about that also .. and that did get me to think. However looking at the Bible ... not based on any text .. but looking at even the Jewish scriptures ... before translation ... the verses we looked at pointed at that possibility.

Again I could be wrong but I believe in corrections based on what the Bible says not on articles or anything like that.

So please do you have any verses to support the post-tribulation ? Again I am here to learn ... so please I would any verses about that so that I can learn and update this article.

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I will get something put together for you. John 6:40 says He comes for us on the Last Day. The parable of the Tares and the Wheat…..the Lord collects the Tares/weeds first and then He harvests the wheat/us. Matthew 24:13 “He who endures to the End will be saved.” Matthew 24:22….”And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the Elects sake those days shall be shortened.” If we leave in a pre tribulation event why is God shortening the days for people pre tribbers say are no longer here. One of you is wrong, and I don’t think it’s God. I’m not trying to be ugly or condescending I’m just trying to stick with the truth of what the Bible actually says instead of what people want it to say. The Lord makes it clear in those 3 verses that the pre trib is not factual. It’s the polar opposite. It’s just wishful thinking by people looking for the easy way out. There are plenty of other verses to go along with it but I remember those off the top of my head.

If you truly want to know more, I will write down some more for you. The Father of the Pretribulation doctrine was a convicted felon for forgery and all of Christendom has swallowed his satanic lies about getting out early when Jesus says those that endure to the end will be saved.

I’m going to get bombarded by people that are quoting other people to back up their belief in the pre tribulation rapture when Tribulation has already started. The only thing standing between us and Armageddon is the 30 second launch codes on all the nukes pointed at us. The AC is possibly here already. We are all watching him now. He’s already being worshipped like he can save us all when you and I know only Jesus can save us.

I’ve seen 3 posts directed at me already while I’m typing this. They’re all quoting another speaker and not the Bible. The deception is deep. John Darby was friends with the Rothchilds family. You know….the Luciferian family. If you want to take advice about eternity from those people, all I can say is good luck to you.

The Bible says the dead in Christ arise first. Either the Bible is wrong or the pre tribbers are. I’m going to go with what the Bible actually says people. If you want to follow that doctrine brought to you by associate of the Rothschild Family and a convicted felon, knock yourself out.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

thanks so so very much for the link and video.

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BE's avatar

You are very welcome!

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Anna Banana's avatar

Please, read 1 Thessalonians 4:17 again. It is Christ's second coming not a rapture. It describes the final day and the Resurrection.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

amen and amen!! God bless you too brother

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Sadly you are very correct. But KJV still and I beleive will always have it

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-6-24/

“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”

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Pls do you have any Bible verse to support this? If not, I cannot believe it.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Amen and amennnn to taht ... I pray we all get caught up and go home to be with Him when the time comes in Jesus name.

Again thanks so much for the comments

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Those who love their life in this world will lose it. Those who care nothing for their life in this world will keep it for eternity. John 12:25

8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.” 10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’” Matthew 4:8-10

Thanks so much for these verses. I appreciate it.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Amen thanks for these kind words brother. you are a great man too yourself

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Looking at the passage in John. I believe it refers to God reminding us that we are just pilgims on this earth and so to remain heaven minded at all times. Not that we are to hate it ... after all God created it for us and He gives us all things to enjoy. He even said in Genesis that what He created is GOOD .. how can we be called to hate what He called good ?

About the Matthew passage it does not say satan created the world .. it is the temptation of Jesus and it supports the verse in John12:25 -- basically saying we are not to be earth minded ... the love of money is the root of all evil basically.

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Thanks for the suggestion ... I will make time and dig into that. It should be somewhere in the Bible ... I will dig more tjhere and compare with the books on that.

I appreciate so much

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Anna Garcia de la Cadena's avatar

Well, for a God you say doesn’t care about us, so much is written to those who believe in Him. “My Children, My Beloved” John 14:1-6 Fo not let your hearts be troubled…… I go

to prepare a place for you…….,.in my Fathers house are many mansions……. Where I am you will be also…….I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life! Now does that sound like Jesus doesn’t care for his people?

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Lionel T.'s avatar

amen and amen!!! Yessss

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Do you have a Bible? Do you have someone who is a believer in Jesus Christ who can help you? If not, start with the Gospels first. Then the book of Acts. There will be plenty there to help you! God bless you! 🙏❤️✝️

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Lionel T.'s avatar

Love this suggestion .. could not say it better. Thanks @Anna

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